[GAP Forum] strange result of FactorGroupFpGroupByRels
Hebert Pérez-Rosés
hebert.perez at gmail.com
Wed Nov 18 15:25:30 GMT 2015
Dear Forum,
I am working with the group 17 of order 108, from the small group library,
which I henceforth denote by H. I am getting a strange result when I try to
factor H, and I wonder if you could help me find an explanation.
The subgroup I, generated by the last generator, F.5, is a normal subgroup
of order 3, and indeed, the factor group H/I is S_3 x S_3, of order 36.
Now, I my understanding is that the group J, generated by [F.1, F.2, F.3,
F,4] should have index 3 in H, but GAP tells me this index is 1. I am
including the code below for reference.
Ultimately, I presume that H is a semidirect product of S_3 x S_3 and C_3,
and I would like to find the homomorphism phi: S_3 x S_3 ----> Aut(C_3).
How can I do that?
By the way, I am using GAP 4.4.12.
Best regards,
Hebert Pérez-Rosés,
University of Lleida, Spain
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gap> G:= SmallGroup(108,17);
<pc group of size 108 with 5 generators>
gap> H:= Image(IsomorphismFpGroup(G));
<fp group of size 108 on the generators [ F1, F2, F3, F4, F5 ]>
gap> RelatorsOfFpGroup(H);
[ F1^2, F2^-1*F1^-1*F2*F1, F3^-1*F1^-1*F3*F1, F4^-1*F1^-1*F4*F1*F4^-1,
F5^-1*F1^-1*F5*F1*F5^-1, F2^2, F3^-1*F2^-1*F3*F2*F3^-1,
F4^-1*F2^-1*F4*F2,
F5^-1*F2^-1*F5*F2*F5^-1, F3^3, F4^-1*F3^-1*F4*F3*F5^-1,
F5^-1*F3^-1*F5*F3,
F4^3, F5^-1*F4^-1*F5*F4, F5^3 ]
gap> I:= FactorGroupFpGroupByRels(H,[H.5]);
<fp group on the generators [ F1, F2, F3, F4, F5 ]>
gap> StructureDescription(I);
"S3 x S3"
gap> J:= FactorGroupFpGroupByRels(H,[H.1,H.2,H.3,H.4]);
<fp group on the generators [ F1, F2, F3, F4, F5 ]>
gap> StructureDescription(J);
"1"
# At this point I thought that GAP's answer was due to the fact that the
subgroup generated by [H.1, ..., H.4] was not normal, but when I tried to
verify this conjecture, I got:
gap> S:= Subgroup(H, [H.1,H.2,H.3,H.4]);
Group ([ F1, F2, F3, F4 ])
gap> IsNormal(H, S);
true
gap> Index(H, S);
1
# Where is the problem here? Have I missed something?
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