Hallo, G:=Group((1,2),(1,2,3,4));; N:=Group((1,3)(2,4),(1,2)(3,4));; hom:=NaturalHomomorphismByNormalSubgroup((G),(N)); p:=FactorGroup((G)); Group([f1,f2]) How can I get this FactorGroup as a PermutationGroup? Best Regards Kurt Ewald